I’ve spent the last three days here in Washington, DC on business. Meetings with the
FAA, HHS and the WAAS office. Long times between meetings and I’ve been done pretty early in the day. So, I placed a casting call on ModelMayhem to see if I could pass the time doing what I like to do, take pictures. 5 or 6 TFCD models responded and I set up sessions with two of them. As my luck would have it – both at the same time. That wasn’t a problem for me (read assistant) or them though so we met at my hotel and headed for the National Mall to shoot. The plan was to use the monuments as the background. Sounded way cool.
We chose the new WW II monument because it had a nice water fountain. We got there around 7pm, good light, not huge crowds. As one model was getting her ticket from the Park Police (wrong way on a One Way street) the other model (Emily) and I set off to set up and shoot along the granite outside wall of the monument. I
used 2 SB800s, at first to fill then to light her. Nikon CLS is so cool. So far so good. I get about a dozen shots off when the other model, Danielle walked up. She dismissed the ticket as part of life in DC and we starting posing her along the same wall Emily had used. About 10 minutes later I hear:
Sir – Sir:
I turned to face an older DC Park Ranger; funny looking chap. He asked if I had a permit to shoot the models. I replied, “No, do I need one?” He said, “Yes, professional photographers require a park permit to photograph models at this monument.” “Oh, well I’m not a pro, I’m just taking some pictures of these girls for their use.” Says I. “Well, if you’re getting paid, you’re a professional.” he said. “I’m not being paid, this is my hobby and
these girls and I are just passing the time taking pictures.” I tried to explain the whole TF* thing to which he decided I was making it all up on the spot. If I didn’t pack it up and leave he’d be forced to call the Park Police and I could explain it all to them. “No sir, that won’t be necessary, we’ll move along. BTW, is a permit required at all the monuments or just this new one?” I asked. He said he didn’t know about the others but I couldn’t do a professional shoot here. So, off we go.
On the way to the cars, who should we see, the Park Police Officer who had stopped and ticketed Danielle. I
believe he was smitten by her and she had told him she was a model and was late and……. You get the idea. We, as in Danielle, told him we’d been run off and why. He said he was not aware of any such requirement for ‘folks like us’. He told us of a nice photo location over at the FDR Memorial with waterfalls. He even lead the way over in his patrol car ‘so Danielle didn’t get another ticket’.
By the time we got over to the FDR Memorial it was dark. We found a small nice water wall (fall) and out comes the D300 and SB800s. All went well there with both models alone and together. We moved to the larger falls about 75 yards away and set up again.
Now, 9pm or so, the crowds appeared. I was a bit surprised by the number of people, but the left us alone for the most part, except for the teenage girls calling out to Emily and Danielle, (20 times!) ” Are you models? Are you models?”. A few minutes later I hear:
Sir – Sir:
I turned to face an older DC Park Ranger; funny looking chap.
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Ugh! Sorry to hear about that. Nothing like rent-a-cops making up bogus things for no good reason because they can’t get hot women anywhere NEAR them unless they’re harassing them. It’s happened to me WITHOUT MODELS!!!! Unless it’s PRIVATE property, I can’t imagine one needs a PERMIT for any shoot where money is not involved. Craziness.
BUT, your experience did not go for naught. I have a shoot scheduled for late August with THREE models (all friends of mine), unpaid, and one of the spots they wanted to hit? National Mall. So equipped with the knowledge of what happened to you, I’ll make sure to do quite a bit of research and homework as well as picking out some nearby locations that aren’t as asinine about how they treat people.
Thanks for sharing the story!
There actually is a permit requirement to shoot anywhere in the area of the National Mall. We looked into it a long time ago for a group shoot, and basically anywhere in the downtown area administered by the NPS has the same rules. No models, no tripods, no lightstands, and no assistants without a permit. Sometimes you can get away with just the model using available light or even a handheld flash (the beauty of CLS, right?), but you can be booted without one. Permits are, I believe, $50 if for a small shoot and ridiculously more if you need to be somewhere at a time when park rangers aren’t normally present (you need to be ‘escorted’ and are liable for paying rangers’ overtime during off hours).
It’s funny that the officer took you to FDR, though, as that’s actually one of the areas in the NCA which is strictly off-limits to all but simple tourist photography or federally-commissioned shoots. That is, no models, no portfolio shots, no tripods, and no stands. Ever. It turns out that somewhere in history someone thought it’d be a good idea to commission works of art for the NCA with public funds, but let the artist retain full copyright (TM?) of the work. Meaning, of course, that no one can have their picture taken with / in / around any of the new monuments until the copyright has expired, else you can legally be sued for unauthorized use and reproduction. The best part being that the NPS rangers would be testifying against us. But, that’s another battle for another day.
Next time, shoot on the streets handheld (still no tripods, stands, or assistants allowed without permit) or head for any part of the Rock Creek park system, where all the same rules theoretically apply but are never enforced. The Georgetown area is also fairly photog-friendly as long as you aren’t setting lightstands up in the middle of the street. Not that I know
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Sean
Thanks Sean. The Ranger couldn’t tell me for sure if a permit was required, he just ‘thought’ there was and asked up to leave or he’d be ‘forced’ to call the Police.
Good info.
No worries, and FWIW, excellent photos of some very pretty ladies!
Sean
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